Oct 5, 2020 05:56
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Spanish term
Spain
cebadero no calificado
Spanish to English
Social Sciences
Agriculture
This is from an article on los of income due to bovine tuberculosis:
cuando existen animales positivos, sus precios de venta a un cebadero no calificado son menores que los precios de venta en el mercado. El no existir una fuente de referencia en la que obtener los precios de venta a cebadero no calificado nos lleva a mantener los precios de venta en el mercado.
It seems to me it might mean "unregulated" but seems a bit odd in the context. The expression also comes up in a royal decree referenced in the aticle:
los animales procedentes de explotaciones del tipo B4, siempre que además sean del
tipo T2 negativo, y oficialmente indemnes de leucosis enzoótica bovina, podrán tener como destino sólo cebaderos no calificados.
TIA
cuando existen animales positivos, sus precios de venta a un cebadero no calificado son menores que los precios de venta en el mercado. El no existir una fuente de referencia en la que obtener los precios de venta a cebadero no calificado nos lleva a mantener los precios de venta en el mercado.
It seems to me it might mean "unregulated" but seems a bit odd in the context. The expression also comes up in a royal decree referenced in the aticle:
los animales procedentes de explotaciones del tipo B4, siempre que además sean del
tipo T2 negativo, y oficialmente indemnes de leucosis enzoótica bovina, podrán tener como destino sólo cebaderos no calificados.
TIA
Proposed translations
(English)
| 1 +3 | uncertified fattener |
neilmac
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| 3 | ungraded feedlot |
Rachael L Banisch
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| 3 | unskilled feeders |
Lisa Rosengard
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| 3 | quarantine feedlot |
Liliana Garfunkel
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Proposed translations
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uncertified fattener
As "cualificado" often means certified (for example, Global GAP -Good Agricultural Practice- certification for food security, environment and animal welfare), I'm guessing this is what it means - fat farms/fattener units without certification.
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RE: Althea's reference below, fact farms are variously know as fattener/finisher units.
I think the key word you're looking for here is "uncertified", and whether you call it a fat farm or a finishing farm or a fattening unit or a fattener or finisher... etc. is moot.
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Note added at 5 hrs (2020-10-05 11:34:54 GMT)
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Typo: fact -> fat.
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Note added at 5 hrs (2020-10-05 11:37:33 GMT)
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In the UK, (for cattle) they are apparently called AFUs:
"Approved Finishing Units ( AFUs ) provide a route for beef producers to finish animals from both restricted and unrestricted farms."
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/finishing-units-f...
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Note added at 5 hrs (2020-10-05 11:38:41 GMT)
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So, either non-approved or uncertified would work.
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Note added at 5 hrs (2020-10-05 11:34:07 GMT)
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RE: Althea's reference below, fact farms are variously know as fattener/finisher units.
I think the key word you're looking for here is "uncertified", and whether you call it a fat farm or a finishing farm or a fattening unit or a fattener or finisher... etc. is moot.
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Note added at 5 hrs (2020-10-05 11:34:54 GMT)
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Typo: fact -> fat.
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Note added at 5 hrs (2020-10-05 11:37:33 GMT)
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In the UK, (for cattle) they are apparently called AFUs:
"Approved Finishing Units ( AFUs ) provide a route for beef producers to finish animals from both restricted and unrestricted farms."
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/finishing-units-f...
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So, either non-approved or uncertified would work.
Example sentence:
Smallholders whose products are not certified as produced and handled
Note from asker:
| Thanks for this, Neil, I had seen the above and was thinking of using non-approved but will stay with uncertified. |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
philgoddard
: Feedlot is American, which I assume Peter doesn't want.
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| agree |
patinba
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| agree |
Antonella Perazzoni
2 days 11 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks for your help, Neil."
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Rachael L Banisch
Spain
Spain
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ungraded feedlot
As far as I can tell, feedlots in Spain are graded or qualified (see link below).
I think the most natural way of translating cebadero no calificado would be "ungraded feedlot" or "uncertified feedlot."
I think the most natural way of translating cebadero no calificado would be "ungraded feedlot" or "uncertified feedlot."
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Lisa Rosengard
United Kingdom
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unskilled feeders
'unqualified feedlots'
According to the information, animals testing positive are placed with less value than other animals in the market.
According to the information, animals testing positive are placed with less value than other animals in the market.
Example sentence:
"El no existir una fuente de referencia en la que obtener los precios de venta a cebadero no calificado nos lleva a mantener los precios de venta en el mercado."
"Without a source of reference in which sale prices are obtained, an unskilled or unqualified feeder brings us to maintain sale prices in the market."
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Liliana Garfunkel
Argentina
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Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish to English
quarantine feedlot
QUARANTINE FEEDLOT means a dry lot feeding facility approved by the State Veterinarian
"Un cebadero bovino calificado lo es *** sanitariamente *** y se refiere a que son animales exentos de brucelosis y tuberculosis. Es un tema sanitario para permitir el movimiento de animales vivos para vida sobre todo."
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I should have said "unquarantined feedlot"
"Un cebadero bovino calificado lo es *** sanitariamente *** y se refiere a que son animales exentos de brucelosis y tuberculosis. Es un tema sanitario para permitir el movimiento de animales vivos para vida sobre todo."
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Note added at 6 hrs (2020-10-05 12:27:37 GMT)
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I should have said "unquarantined feedlot"
Reference comments
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Juan Mattei
Mexico
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, English (Variant: US)
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Reference:
cebadero no calificado
This European Commission document tackles the topic at hand. On a corresponding footnote (page 9), they appear to refer to it with the following terminology:
In their response to the draft report the Spanish Authorities stated that only uncertified fattening farms are exempted from the testing regime. There are 15.763 such farms.
In their response to the draft report the Spanish Authorities stated that only uncertified fattening farms are exempted from the testing regime. There are 15.763 such farms.
Peer comments on this reference comment:
| agree |
Jane Martin
: You should put this up an answer.
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| agree |
Toni Castano
: "Uncertified fattening farms" seems to be the "official" terminology of the EU. However, we don´t know if Peter needs something specific for the UK.
1 hr
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| agree |
neilmac
: @Jane: I've already posted "uncertified fattener" (fattener is industry shorthand for fattening farms and/or feeds)...
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Toni Castano
Spain
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Spain
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Reference:
Spanish Royal Decree (Real Decreto) 2611/1996
This is the Spanish legal regulation where the terminology is clearly defined. Peter has already posted a small excerpt from this Decree ("los animales procedentes de explotaciones del tipo B4..."):
https://www.boe.es/buscar/act.php?id=BOE-A-1996-28539
Legislación consolidada
Real Decreto 2611/1996, de 20 de diciembre, por el que se regulan los programas nacionales de erradicación de enfermedades de los animales.
(…)
Artículo 3. Definiciones.
A efectos de lo dispuesto en este real decreto, se entenderá por:
G) Explotación de cebo o cebadero: aquella que está dedicada al engorde de animales de la especie bovina, o de las especies ovina o caprina, y cuyo destino directo posterior sólo puede ser otra u otras explotaciones de cebo o centros de concentración o un matadero, siempre que la explotación de cebo de origen esté calificada, o exclusiva y directamente el matadero, si no está calificada.
Serán explotaciones de cebo calificadas aquellas de ganado bovino con estatuto de oficialmente indemnes de brucelosis bovina, oficialmente indemnes de tuberculosis bovina y oficialmente indemnes de leucosis enzoótica bovina, o de ganado ovino o caprino indemnes u oficialmente indemnes de brucelosis, de acuerdo con lo previsto en el anexo 6.
En las mismas instalaciones de la misma explotación de cebo no podrán mezclarse animales de la especie bovina con animales de las especies ovina y/o caprina.
Hence it is clear that this Royal Decree defines what a "explotación calificada" is (same as "cebadero calificado" in this case), but not the opposite, "cebadero no calificado". We just need to use our common sense to understand what the contrary is.
https://www.boe.es/buscar/act.php?id=BOE-A-1996-28539
Legislación consolidada
Real Decreto 2611/1996, de 20 de diciembre, por el que se regulan los programas nacionales de erradicación de enfermedades de los animales.
(…)
Artículo 3. Definiciones.
A efectos de lo dispuesto en este real decreto, se entenderá por:
G) Explotación de cebo o cebadero: aquella que está dedicada al engorde de animales de la especie bovina, o de las especies ovina o caprina, y cuyo destino directo posterior sólo puede ser otra u otras explotaciones de cebo o centros de concentración o un matadero, siempre que la explotación de cebo de origen esté calificada, o exclusiva y directamente el matadero, si no está calificada.
Serán explotaciones de cebo calificadas aquellas de ganado bovino con estatuto de oficialmente indemnes de brucelosis bovina, oficialmente indemnes de tuberculosis bovina y oficialmente indemnes de leucosis enzoótica bovina, o de ganado ovino o caprino indemnes u oficialmente indemnes de brucelosis, de acuerdo con lo previsto en el anexo 6.
En las mismas instalaciones de la misma explotación de cebo no podrán mezclarse animales de la especie bovina con animales de las especies ovina y/o caprina.
Hence it is clear that this Royal Decree defines what a "explotación calificada" is (same as "cebadero calificado" in this case), but not the opposite, "cebadero no calificado". We just need to use our common sense to understand what the contrary is.
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Althea Draper
United Kingdom
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Reference:
Finishing Units
"AFUs [(Approved Finishing Units)] provide a route for rearing, fattening or finishing cattle from TB-restricted and unrestricted farms. They must be approved and licensed by the Animal and Plant Health Agency (APHA) and can only be approved in the High Risk Area (HRA) and Edge Area of England, and the High TB Areas of Wales."
"Licensed Finishing Units (LFU) are a type of TB unit approved by the Animal and Plant Health Agency (APHA) in the Low Risk Area (LRA) of England and the Low TB Area of Wales only.
LFUs provide an outlet for the finishing of negative-testing cattle from multiple officially TB free (OTF) herds. LFUs are permanently under TB movement restrictions (TB02), and cattle are housed under biosecure conditions. Cattle in the unit are exempt from post-movement TB testing, providing the statutory pre-movement testing requirements have been met. Animals may be sourced from multiple unrestricted premises in any area of England, Scotland and Wales."
"Licensed Finishing Units (LFU) are a type of TB unit approved by the Animal and Plant Health Agency (APHA) in the Low Risk Area (LRA) of England and the Low TB Area of Wales only.
LFUs provide an outlet for the finishing of negative-testing cattle from multiple officially TB free (OTF) herds. LFUs are permanently under TB movement restrictions (TB02), and cattle are housed under biosecure conditions. Cattle in the unit are exempt from post-movement TB testing, providing the statutory pre-movement testing requirements have been met. Animals may be sourced from multiple unrestricted premises in any area of England, Scotland and Wales."
Reference:
Peer comments on this reference comment:
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neilmac
: Yes, it's synonmous with "fattener units", somtimes writte as "fattener/finisher"...
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