Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

Barrio alto

English translation:

Barrio Alto

Added to glossary by broca
Apr 26, 2017 09:52
7 yrs ago
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Spanish term

Barrio alto

Spanish to English Social Sciences Geography
"El solar de las ánimas: 220 años de historia de unas casas del barrio alto"
http://www.gentedelpuerto.com/2015/12/21/2-676-antonio-gutie...

Discussion

Neil Ashby Apr 26, 2017:
FWIW, I've visited it a few times as it's only 50 minutes away and my brother-in-law has a flat in neighbouring Rota.

Here's a topographical map of the town - the small hill is in the industrial, more modern part of town, whereas Barrio Alto is next to the river (at about the location of the word "María" on the map), where it couldn't be much flatter.
Saludos

Topographical map, showing location of a "hill" on the outskirts of town:
http://es-es.topographic-map.com/places/El-Puerto-de-Santa-M...

Normal map, showing location of "Barrio Alto":
https://www.google.es/search?newwindow=1&client=firefox-b-ab...
neilmac Apr 26, 2017:
Never been to Cadiz But "upper town" makes me think of somewhere like Cuenca. I assumed the Puerto Santa Maria area to be topographically flat, but maybe I'm wrong. But "barrio" is so widely known nowadays among English speakers that I'd probably be in favour of leaving it as it is.

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Barrio Alto

This is just the name of an area so I would leave it in Spanish

Barrio Alto vuelve a denunciar el mal estado del centro
Los vecinos piden al Ayuntamiento que actúe en varios solares abandonados que dan mala imagen

Tras denunciar hace dos meses el estado de varios solares abandonados en la calle Santa Lucía, la asociación de vecinos Barrio Alto volvió a reclamar ayer al Ayuntamiento que actúe en cinco solares vacíos que, por su suciedad, dan una mala imagen de la ciudad.
http://barrioaltoportuense.blogspot.co.uk/

Like most Spanish cities, Sanlúcar is full of Catholic churches! Nuestra Señora de la O in Barrio Alto is one of the most important churches in the area
https://katestraveltips.com/2015/09/10/12-things-to-do-in-sa...

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Barrio Alto/ upper town

YOu could call it either really, or put Barrio Alto with upper town in brackets.
The Rough Guide to Spain - Page 336 - Google Books Result
https://books.google.es/books?isbn=1843532611
Simon Baskett, ‎Jules Brown, ‎Marc Stephen Dubin - 2004 - ‎Travel
Sanlucar de Barrameda Like Puerto Santa Maria, SANLUCAR DE ... deal to see, although the attractive old quarter in the upper town, or Barrio Alto, is worth taking ... a couple of kilometres' walk from the town centre and usually quite deserted.

Cádiz - Welcome AGP
www.welcomeagp.com/en/cadiz/
Puerto de Santa María: This bright, open town, given extra beauty by its centre .... The Barrio Alto is the historic centre with the town's monuments, narrow streets ...



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The reason for my answer is that "barrio alto" can refer to a neighbourhood, or just be part of the town, like town centre or old quarter. Areas of towns and cities are usually translated or explained; judería, casco antiguo, centro histórico, to name but a few. So to accommodate readers with no understanding of Spanish an explanation in brackets is helpful.
Peer comment(s):

neutral Neil Ashby : I don't agree that you can translate it as "upper town" because it's the actual name of the neighbourhood, you wouldn't translate Soho or Brooklyn, so why "Barrio Alto"?
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There will always be different opinions on this, but lots of towns have a Barrio Alto, and an explanation of "upper town" is frequently added. A good example is Lisbon.
agree Muriel Vasconcellos : IMO, it's OK to say 'upper town' in the way it's written in your example, but I wouldn't use parens--use 'Barrio Alto' first and make the parenthetical explanation part of the text.
12 mins
Thanks, Muriel.
agree Lindsay Spratt : Agree with Muriel!
1 hr
Thanks, Lindsay, me too.
agree philgoddard
2 hrs
Thank you, Phil.
agree lugoben
2 hrs
Thank you, Lugoben.
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Barrio Alto

It's the name of the district, neighbourhood or town.

Opening the asker's link, the third picture (the back cover of the book) shows the subtitle "220 años de historia de unas casas del Barrio Alto" with "Barrio Alto" capitalised, ergo it's a neighbourhood/district/town....

The answer's in your own reference ;@)

http://www.gentedelpuerto.com/2015/12/21/2-676-antonio-gutie...



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Conjunto histórico-artístico de Sanlúcar de Barrameda

El casco urbano de la ciudad se extiende a dos alturas separadas por la Barranca. Sus barrios y principales lugares son el Barrio Alto, el Barrio Bajo, el Barrio,70 Bajo de Guía, Bonanza, El Mazacote,71 La Jara, la Colonia Monte Algaida, Monteolivete, El Palmar,72 La Dehesilla, el Alto de las Cuevas,73 Las Piletas, el Espíritu Santo, la Banda Playa, la Otra Banda.74

En los últimos 30 años se han construido una gran cantidad de viviendas ilegales, muchas de ellas dedicadas a segunda residencia, por todo el término municipal. La tendencia últimamente es proceder a la legalización de todas las que sea posible.75 Para facilitar la legalización existen el Plan de Ordenación del Territorio de la Costa Noroeste,76 que afecta al municipio, así como la existencia de Plan General de Ordenación Urbana77 de la Gerencia Municipal de Urbanismo y del Consejo de Urbanismo78

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanlúcar_de_Barrameda

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"En Sanlúcar sí existe el Barrio Alto como zona diferenciada. En El Puerto de Santa María, creo más bien que se trata de una forma popular de referirse a una zona que está en la parte alta de la ciudad."

- so which town is the subject of your question? That's what we call context and it would be very helpful if you include it when formulating your question.


Regardless of which town, I think it should still be capitalised. The example below is taken from the Ayuntamiento de Puerta de Santa Maria's own website; they also capitalise "Barrio Alto".

"La salud, la educación, el ocio y la participación social son los ámbitos a los que se dirige el programa.
El Ayuntamiento insiste en que el Barrio Alto no caiga en el olvido. Por este motivo, el Plan Integral dirigido a rehabilitar esta emblemática zona del casco histórico ha puesto en marcha nuevas iniciativas. En esta ocasión la encargada ha sido el Área de Bienestar Social, que ha presentado el programa de actividades de 2011. Estas actividades van enfocadas fundamentalmente a los mayores, a los jóvenes en situación de riesgo de exclusión y, desde ahora, a las mujeres. "
http://www.elpuertodesantamaria.es/contenido/7166/el-proyect...

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Arrgh, now I see it, it mentions the Puerto de Santa Maria on the book cover, in a non-searchable image (I like to save time by using control F, control B on Spanish keyboards), just like the actual line quoted, in a non-searchable image....
Please, if you're asking for help, make it as easy as possible for us to help you. ;@)

Anyway, as I've already mentioned, it still appears capitalised in the town council's own literature. Saludos.

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Ha ha, first come and with a large explanation, but no rewards for my efforts..... :@(
Note from asker:
En Sanlúcar sí existe el Barrio Alto como zona diferenciada. En El Puerto de Santa María, creo más bien que se trata de una forma popular de referirse a una zona que está en la parte alta de la ciudad.
The context is in the link I sent with my question (where El Puerto de Santa maría is expressly mentioned). Thank you.
Peer comment(s):

agree Jane Martin : You beat me to it.
6 mins
Thanks Jane, by a smidgen.
agree neilmac
1 hr
Thanks Neil,
agree franglish
5 hrs
Cheers Franglish
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