May 11, 2002 10:55
22 yrs ago
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English term

farther vs. furhter, farthest vs. furthest

Non-PRO English Art/Literary
Is there any difference in meaning/use between the two forms (like in older-elder, for instance)?
Thank you!
Oleg

Discussion

Kim Metzger May 11, 2002:
Oleg, I highly recommend the excellent book by Michael Swan entitled "Practical English Usage."

Responses

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farther = distance / further = addition

examples:
- that star is farther away from earh
- that quasar is farthest away from anything
- give me further advice
- give me further information



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Note added at 2002-05-11 12:26:13 (GMT)
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just to make it complete in the furthest detail possible .....
Peer comment(s):

agree RSI EN-ES (AA) : farther: more distant in space - further: an extension of time or degree
39 mins
thanks, Rick
agree Kim Metzger : Michael Swan agrees too.
1 hr
thanks, Kim, but who's Michael Swan?
agree Margaret Lagoyianni : A good recommendation, Kim!
1 hr
thanks Margaret, you must be talking about that elusive Michael Swan also. Am I missing something?
agree Ester Vidal (X)
1 hr
thanks, Ester.
agree Antonio Costa (X) : Better than any grammar book
2 hrs
disagree John Kinory (X) : Not in modern BE usage - see below
9 hrs
I am talking universal English, not BE, John! And I have quite a few peers agreeing
agree Carlos Moreno
4 days
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks again!"
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1 hr

farther/further

It is grammatically correct to use either farther or further in expressing distance, although farther is more commonly used.

Further has alternate meanings:
in addition to/more: without further ado

and also as a verb:
to further - to promote/help (to further one's career for example)

I think farther is associated more with distance/more commonly used because further has additional meanings
Peer comment(s):

agree Tatiana Neroni (X)
6 hrs
thanks
agree John Kinory (X) : Incorrect answer chosen yet again.
8 hrs
Thanks, John. We should know, I guess!
agree P.L.F. Persio : 12 years too late, but it's worth to stand our ground.
4452 days
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3 hrs

Here is what the American Heritage Dictionary has to say about the subject:

"Since the Middle English period many writers have used farther and further interchangeably. According to a relatively recent rule, however, farther should be reserved for physical distance and further for nonphysical, metaphorical advancement. Thus 74 percent of the Usage Panel prefers farther in the sentence "If you are planning to drive any farther than Ukiah, you'd better carry chains," and 64 percent prefers further in the sentence "We won't be able to answer these questions until we are further along in our research." In many cases, however, the distinction is not easy to draw. If we speak of a statement that is far from the truth, for example, we should also allow the use of farther in a sentence such as "Nothing could be farther from the truth." But "Nothing could be further from the truth" is so well established as to seem a fixed expression."

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Fuad
Peer comment(s):

neutral John Kinory (X) : Modern BE usage allows either further or farther for distance. The distincetion can be ambigous, as you say. Incorrect answer chosen yet again.
5 hrs
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