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сгонно-нагонные ветры; сгон
Aug 19, 2005 06:05
18 yrs ago
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Russian term

вегето-сосудистая дистония

Russian to English Medical Medical (general)
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Proposed translations (English)
4 +3 vegeto-vascular dystonia
4 +1 vegetovascular (neurocirculatory) dystonia,
3 +2 angioneurosis, vasoneurosis
4 vegetative neurosis
3 +1 Neurocirculatory asthenia
3 +1 см.
4 Somatoform autonomic dysfunction
3 (vegeto)circulatory dystonia

Discussion

Tsogt Gombosuren Sep 1, 2005:
Igor, thank you for your action.
If you can't decide on your own, you may leave it to your colleagues.
I understand that in some cases, one does not like all answers, but your own. In such case, the option to close w/o grading will serve its purpose. :-
Igor Deschenko (asker) Sep 1, 2005:
Better late than never: Tsogt, I closed this question because I started to feel like ��������� ����, even worse, if you know what I'm talking about.
I'll leave the question open until it robogrades - let the community intelligence prevail here
Tsogt Gombosuren Aug 25, 2005:
Could you kindly tell us the reason why you closed the question without grading?
Svetlana Touloub Aug 19, 2005:
� ��� �� ����� ����� ����� � "������� ���������� ���������" (chronic fatigue syndrome)?

Proposed translations

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6 mins
Russian term (edited): ������-��������� �������
Selected

vegeto-vascular dystonia

Англо-русско-английский перевод / Med. ...
... Встречается вот такое: vegeto-vascular dystonia persons, patients with symptomless
borderline hypertension, and patients with borderline ...
forum.lingvo.ru/actualthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=22234 - 28k - Нэмэлт Илэрц - Зөөр - Ижил нүүрүүд

Intellect Breathing :: Device :: Indications and contraindications ...
Vegetovascular dystonia. "The Frolov's respiration training device"® at the given
disease normalizes sympathetic and parasympathetic regulation of the ...
www.intellectbreathing.com/illnesses.en.php - 51k


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\"vegetative-vascular dystonia\"
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ME/CFS & Fibromyalgia Research Notices, Co-Cure Articles and Posts
Full Title: Vegetative-Vascular Dystonia and Osteoalgetic Syndrome or Chronic
... The incidence and prevalence rate of Vegetative-Vascular Dystonia among ...
www.co-cure.org/infor26.htm - 24k - Зөөр - Ижил нүүрүүд

[Thermography in healthy subjects and in the syndrome of ...
The effectiveness and information content of thermography were studied in 20
normal subjects and 40 ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve& db=PubMed&list_uids=4024817&dopt=Abstract - Ижил нүүрүүд

[Study of the vestibular analyzer in vegetative-vascular dystonia]
[Study of the vestibular analyzer in vegetative-vascular dystonia] [Article in
Russian] Bodo D, Chengeri A, Iakovleva IIa, Baranova VP. MeSH Terms ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve& db=PubMed&list_uids=1088012&dopt=Abstract - Ижил нүүрүүд
[ www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov-оос илүү олдлоо ]

EEG Patterns in Persons Exposed to Ionizing Radiation as a Result ...
\"Vegetative-vascular dystonia\" (autonomic nervous system dysfunction or ...
Symptoms of vegetative-vascular dystonia in irradiated patients were often ...
neuro.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/13/4/441


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After a second thought, I decided that the English version of the term is:

neurocirculatory asthenia
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neurocirculatory asthenia, a syndrome characterized by palpitations, dyspnea, a sense of fatigue, fear of effort, and discomfort brought on by exercise or even slight effort; considered by most authorities to be a particular presentation of an anxiety disorder, the physical symptoms being attributed to autonomic responses to anxiety or to hyperventilation. Called also Da Costa\'s syndrome, effort syndrome, and irritable or soldier\'s heart.
http://www.mercksource.com/pp/us/cns/cns_hl_dorlands.jspzQzp...


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http://forum.lingvo.ru/actualthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=22234
[1] Re: Med. terminology.Кто знает?
маня 27 фев 05, 02:02 Ответить
Встречается вот такое:
vegeto-vascular dystonia
persons, patients with symptomless borderline hypertension, and patients with borderline hypertension accompanied by syndrome of vegeto-vascular dystonia. ...

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[2] Re: Med. terminology.Кто знает?
маня 27 фев 05, 02:12 Ответить
ТРАВМА, ВОЗНИКАЮЩАЯ ИЗ-ЗА ПОСТОЯННОЙ НАГРУЗКИ (repetitive strain injury (RSI)) - боль, сопровождающаяся потерей функций конечности в результате совершаемых ею однообразных, постоянно повторяющихся движений или после длительного воздействия статической нагрузки. Тендосиновит и тендовагинит запястья являются наиболее распространенной травмой кистей, которая часто встречается у людей, много печатающих на пишущей машинке.

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[3] Re: Med. terminology.Кто знает?
маня 27 фев 05, 02:13 Ответить
Забыла дать ссылочку про синдром

http://www.neuro.net.ru/bibliot/b007/

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[4] Re: Med. terminology.Кто знает?
Vetka 27 фев 05, 09:00 Ответить
Встречается вот такое:
vegeto-vascular dystonia

Только на днях попыталась сказать так... меня не поняли.

За ссылку отдельное спасибо

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[5] Re: Med. terminology.Кто знает?
vtora 27 фев 05, 10:17 Ответить
neurocirculatory asthenia, a syndrome characterized by palpitations, dyspnea, a sense of fatigue, fear of effort, and discomfort brought on by exercise or even slight effort; considered by most authorities to be a particular presentation of an anxiety disorder, the physical symptoms being attributed to autonomic responses to anxiety or to hyperventilation. Called also Da Costa\'s syndrome, effort syndrome, and irritable or soldier\'s heart.
http://www.mercksource.com/pp/us/cns/cns_hl_dorlands.jspzQzp...

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Peer comment(s):
agree Kurt Porter
3 mins
Thank you Kurt! :-)
neutral Kirill Semenov : note that all sources are Russian by their origin... + I don't think they are. The word is easily found in English dictionaries on the Web
5 mins
The sources that are related to angioneurosis seem to be Russian too.
agree alex11
19 hrs
Thank you Alex! :-)
agree Сергей Лузан
6 days
Thank you Sergei! :-)
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Russian term (edited): ������-��������� �������

vegetovascular (neurocirculatory) dystonia,

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... forms and primarily chronic forms: vegetovascular (neurocirculatory) dystonia,
initial manifestations of ... Research Unit, University of Leeds, UK. ...
www.lef.org/LEFCMS/aspx/PrintVersionMagic.aspx?CmsID=111099 - 70k
Peer comment(s):
agree alex11
19 hrs
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Russian term (edited): ������-��������� �������

vegetative neurosis

распространенный вариант
Reference:

http://www.google.com/search?num=30&hl=en&lr=&newwindow=1&rls=GGLD%2CGGLD%3A2005-13%2CGGLD%3Aen&q=vegetative+neurosis

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Russian term (edited): ������-��������� �������

(vegeto)circulatory dystonia

The term veget-vascular dystonia seems to exist only as translated from Russian.

http://www.dystonia-foundation.org/defined/

...Variant forms of dystonia are marked by atypical clinical features and may be etiologically distinct from the classic form. Dopa-Responsive, Paroxysmal, X-Linked Dystonia-Parkinsonian, Myoclonic, and Rapid-Onset Dystonia-Parkinsonian are all considered variant forms.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&d...

35 patients with vegetocirculatory dystonia and hyperventilation syndrome, but without the signs of organic lesion of nervous system were treated.



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i\'d probably go for just \"circulatory dystonia\"

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Or, prob.
Angioneuropathy:

http://onlinedictionary.datasegment.com/word/angioneurosis

Angioneuropathy - (Med.) Neuropathy of the neurons innervating blood vessels. Called also Angioneurosis, Vasoneurosis.

The term **angioneuropathy** is now used more frequently than angioneurosis.
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+2
9 mins
Russian term (edited): ������-��������� �������

angioneurosis, vasoneurosis

http://www.proz.com/kudoz/205836

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И Мультитран в поддержку:

мед. вегетативно-сосудистая дистония angioneurosis
мед. вегетативно-сосудистая дистония neurangiosis
мед. вегетативно-сосудистая дистония vasomotor dyscrasia
мед. вегетативно-сосудистая дистония vasoneurosis


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И вот еще ссылочка: http://www.proz.com/kudoz/462679
Там Drunya авторитетно высказался.
Peer comment(s):
agree Ann Nosova : да, что правда- то правда, у них такой болезни нет... и в МКБ-10 тоже нет, это сугубо отечественный д-з
9 mins
я просто помню, что как-то обсуждалось это не так уж давно. Только вот тот самый вопрос найти не могу, тогда очень подробно спорили
neutral Tsogt Gombosuren : The sources related to angioneurosis and vasoneurosis seem to be non-native sites (Danish, Czech, Russian etc.). Drunya's does not support either your previous answer or your current answer.+I checked lingvo forum reference in my answer :-)
17 mins
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Angioneurosis ; http://www.diagnose-me.com/glossary/index-V.html ; http://botanicum.com/glossaryv.html ; and many others + I don't think it's a nice thing to do to use my references to change your own answer ;-)
agree Anton Ivanyuk
5 hrs
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Russian term (edited): ������-��������� �������

Neurocirculatory asthenia

Neurocirculatory asthenia, a syndrome characterized by palpitations, dyspnea, a sense of fatigue, fear of effort, and discomfort brought on by exercise or even slight effort; considered by most authorities to be a particular presentation of an anxiety disorder, the physical symptoms being attributed to autonomic responses to anxiety or to hyperventilation (Dorland's Medical Dictionary)

Самый близкий "родной" диагноз, который удалось когда-то найти.
Peer comment(s):
agree Martinique : С вашей подачи (http://www.proz.com/kudoz/462679) я теперь так и перевожу :)
5 hrs
neutral Ann Nosova : да, но этот диагноз входит в Somatoform autonomic dysfunction, отдельного шифра для нейроцирк. астении нет
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Russian term (edited): ������-��������� �������

см.

прочитайте, пожалуйста эту статью
The Disease of a Thousand Names - Melissa Kaplan
автор приводит практически все варианты названия заболевания (около 100), начиная с "vasomotor instability" и заканчивая "yuppie flu"
http://www.anapsid.org/cnd/diagnosis/names.html
Вам надо выбрать тот вариант, который будет понятен в стране заказчика перевода
Peer comment(s):
agree Svetlana Touloub : абсолютно верно. В Бельгии, к примеру, нашу "...дистонию" не понимают. А по синдромам относят к "....хронической усталости"....Извините, сначала задала свой вопрос, а потом увидела Ваш ответ..
31 mins
спасибо
neutral Ann Nosova : извините, но это совсем другое заболевание ( в статье), а смотреть надо в классификации, их сейчас придерживаются все (русская версия полностью совпадает с английской)
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Russian term (edited): ������-��������� �������

Somatoform autonomic dysfunction

Я полагаю, что это подходит больше всего. Кстати, сейчас много спорят о том, как шифровать- или в ранге психических заболеваний(см. ссылки), или в неврологичеких заболеваниях найти подходящее название. Среди заболеваний сердечно-сосудистой системы похожих диагнозов нет.
Кстати, диагноз, предложенный Друней,отдельно не существует(официально), он входит в эту когорту:Соматоформная дисфункция вегетативной нервной системы ( в этом легко убедиться по кодам, они полностью идентичны в обеих версиях).

http://www3.who.int/icd/vol1htm2003/fr-icd.htm
Mental and behavioural disorders
(F00-F99)
Neurotic, stress-related and somatoform disorders
(F40-F48)
F48.
F48.0 Other neurotic disorders F48.0 Neurasthenia
http://www.mkb10.ru/?class=9
Код: F48.0 Название: Неврастения
F45.3 Somatoform autonomic dysfunction Symptoms are presented by the patient as if they were due to a physical disorder of a system or organ that is largely or completely under autonomic innervation and control, i.e. the cardiovascular, gastrointestinal, respiratory and urogenital systems. The symptoms are usually of two types, neither of which indicates a physical disorder of the organ or system concerned. First, there are complaints based upon objective signs of autonomic arousal, such as palpitations, sweating, flushing, tremor, and expression of fear and distress about the possibility of a physical disorder. Second, there are subjective complaints of a nonspecific or changing nature such as fleeting aches and pains, sensations of burning, heaviness, tightness, and feelings of being bloated or distended, which are referred by the patient to a specific organ or system.
Cardiac neurosis
Da Costa's syndrome
Gastric neurosis
Neurocirculatory asthenia
Psychogenic forms of:
• aerophagydiarrhoea
cough
• dyspepsia
• dysuria
• flatulence
• hiccough
• hyperventilation
• increased frequency of micturition
• irritable bowel syndrome
• pylorospasm
Невротические, связанные со стрессом и соматоформные расстройства Код: F45 Название: Соматоформные расстройства
Код: F45.3 Название: Соматоформная дисфункция вегетативной нервной системы
Diseases of the nervous system

(G00-G99)Other disorders of the nervous system
(G90-G99) G90 Disorders of autonomic nervous system
Расстройства вегетативной [автономной] нервной системы

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