Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
referentially and pragmatically
Arabic translation:
من الناحية الدلالية والواقعية
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Shazly
Jun 4, 2006 16:06
17 yrs ago
English term
referentially and pragmatically
English to Arabic
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Terminology of linguistics
Hi,
The expression above is taken from Peter Newmark's A textbook of Translation. It talks about translation and its theories. On page '23': the paragraph in which the expression appears is:
Does this mean, as Seleskovitch claims, that the (SL) words disappear or that you deverbalize the concepts' (Delisle)? Not at all, you are working continuously on two levels, the real and the linguistic, life and language, reference and sense, but you write, on the linguistic level, where your job is to achieve the greatest possible correspondence, referentially and pragmatically, with the words and sentences of SL text.
The expression above is taken from Peter Newmark's A textbook of Translation. It talks about translation and its theories. On page '23': the paragraph in which the expression appears is:
Does this mean, as Seleskovitch claims, that the (SL) words disappear or that you deverbalize the concepts' (Delisle)? Not at all, you are working continuously on two levels, the real and the linguistic, life and language, reference and sense, but you write, on the linguistic level, where your job is to achieve the greatest possible correspondence, referentially and pragmatically, with the words and sentences of SL text.
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من الناحية الدلالية والواقعية
فيما يتعلق باللغة فلعلها تشير إلى الدلالة أو المغزى بأكثر مما تشير إلى الإحالة المرجعية إلى نص مكتوب
referential
Linguistics relating to a referent, in particular having the external world rather than a text or language as a referent.
referentially bound= المرتبط دلاليّا
reference n.
a. Significance in a specified context: Her speeches have special reference to environmental policy
b. Meaning or denotation
referential
Linguistics relating to a referent, in particular having the external world rather than a text or language as a referent.
referentially bound= المرتبط دلاليّا
reference n.
a. Significance in a specified context: Her speeches have special reference to environmental policy
b. Meaning or denotation
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I fond your suggested translation helpful to me. Thank you...!"
16 mins
Awad Balaish
Saudi Arabia
Saudi Arabia
Native in Arabic
Saudi Arabia
Translation is an informative profission
Native in: Arabic 
Works in: Arabic to English, English to Arabic
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2
من ناحية مرجعية وواقعية
تحياتي
2 hrs
Ahmed Sultan
Egypt
Egypt
Native in Arabic
Egypt
Where accuracy is a must!
Native in: Arabic
Works in: English to Arabic, Arabic to English
من الناحية المرجعية والواقعية
تحقيق أكبر قدر من التوافق، من الناحية المرجعية والواقعية، مع كلمات وجمل النص الأصلي.
(يلاحظ أنني اعتبرت أن SL هي اختصار source language)
مع أطيب تمنياتي
(يلاحظ أنني اعتبرت أن SL هي اختصار source language)
مع أطيب تمنياتي
5 hrs
Hassan Al-Haifi (wordforword)
Native in Arabic
proven quality translation work
Native in: Arabic (Variants: Yemeni, Standard-Arabian (MSA))
Works in: Arabic to English, English to Arabic
Related KudoZ points
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19
استدلاليا وذرائعياً
.e. by making use of references and practical sensible reasoning.
That is the connotation I get.
That is the connotation I get.
16 hrs
Ramadan Bekheet
Egypt
Egypt
Native in Arabic
Egypt
Patent & Legal Translator
Native in: Arabic 
Works in: English to Arabic, Arabic to English
دلاليا وبراجماتيا
من الناحية الدلالية والبراجماتية
This translation is based on a private Linguistics dictionary. Good Luck!
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Note added at 16 hrs (2006-06-05 08:21:43 GMT)
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In linguistics:
pragmatics: The study of language as it is used in a social context and affects the interlocutors and their behavior >> البراجماتية: دراسة استعمال اللغة
reference >> دلالة، إحالة دلالية
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Note added at 16 hrs (2006-06-05 08:38:14 GMT)
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Some might stick to the literal translation of (referential) as إحالي and this is also acceptable. So you may say إحاليا وبراجماتيا
This translation is based on a private Linguistics dictionary. Good Luck!
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Note added at 16 hrs (2006-06-05 08:21:43 GMT)
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In linguistics:
pragmatics: The study of language as it is used in a social context and affects the interlocutors and their behavior >> البراجماتية: دراسة استعمال اللغة
reference >> دلالة، إحالة دلالية
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Note added at 16 hrs (2006-06-05 08:38:14 GMT)
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Some might stick to the literal translation of (referential) as إحالي and this is also acceptable. So you may say إحاليا وبراجماتيا
19 hrs
إحاليا وتداوليا
http://www.arabization.org.ma/downloads/majalla/48/docs/245....
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i'm afraid the other suggested equivalents are prone to be mistaken because of the so-called 'drawback of synonymity' (آفة الترادف), with such common idioms as "instrumentalistically" for ذرائعيا, and "semantically" for دلاليا.
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Note added at 19 hrs (2006-06-05 12:02:51 GMT)
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i'm afraid the other suggested equivalents are prone to be mistaken because of the so-called 'drawback of synonymity' (آفة الترادف), with such common idioms as "instrumentalistically" for ذرائعيا, and "semantically" for دلاليا.
20 hrs
مرجعيا و عمليا
zax
14 days
Rajaa Aquil
United States
United States
Native in Arabic
Specializes in field
United States
Meticulous Quick Polyglot
Native in: Arabic (Variants: Standard-Arabian (MSA), Egyptian) , Turkish (Variant: Standard-İstanbul )
Works in: Arabic to English, English to Arabic
دلاليا و برجماتكيا (تداخل اللغة م الثقافة و الحياة اليومية)
pragmatics do not exist as a single word in Arabic- but pragmatics deal with language in context, as in its cultural aspect and here and now aspect
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Note added at 14 days (2006-06-19 03:01:50 GMT) Post-grading
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دلاليا و برجماتكيا
(تداخل اللغة مع الثقافة و الحياة اليومية)
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Note added at 14 days (2006-06-19 03:01:50 GMT) Post-grading
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دلاليا و برجماتكيا
(تداخل اللغة مع الثقافة و الحياة اليومية)
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