Feb 3, 2022 23:04
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German term
Klagen vorbehalten
German to English
Social Sciences
History
This was taken from the deposition of a witness (1764), regarding the attempt of the Protestants of Rosenberg to lay claim to part of a tithe in Neidelsbach:
“Ferner seye ihnen in gemeldtem Regierungs-Rescript 100 Thaler Straf mit gedroheter Execution angesetzt worden, in so fern sie sich noch einmal unterstehen würden, dem Neidelspacher Zehenden nachzugehen, worwieder sie aber protestirt, und ihr Klagen vorbehalten hätten.”
Proposed translation:
In addition, a 100-thaler fine, with the threat of execution, was placed on them in the said governmental rescript, if they should once again dare to go after the Neidelsbach tithe, against which they protested, and...ihr Klagen vorbehalten hätten.
“Ferner seye ihnen in gemeldtem Regierungs-Rescript 100 Thaler Straf mit gedroheter Execution angesetzt worden, in so fern sie sich noch einmal unterstehen würden, dem Neidelspacher Zehenden nachzugehen, worwieder sie aber protestirt, und ihr Klagen vorbehalten hätten.”
Proposed translation:
In addition, a 100-thaler fine, with the threat of execution, was placed on them in the said governmental rescript, if they should once again dare to go after the Neidelsbach tithe, against which they protested, and...ihr Klagen vorbehalten hätten.
Proposed translations
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| 4 +1 | reserved their right to sue. |
Andrew Bramhall
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| 3 +3 | refused to withdraw their claim |
Lancashireman
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reserved their right to sue.
"Furthermore, in the aforementioned government resolution, they were fined 100 Thaler with threatened execution, should they dare to pursue the Neidelspach tithe again, but they protested against this and reserved their right to sue.
Peer comment(s):
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Klaus Beyer
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Thank you!
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Cilian O'Tuama
: Congrats for once not making DeepL worse. Nice change.
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Just as well you don't back horses; you'd never manage to pick a winner.
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refused to withdraw their claim
I don't think the Protestants of Rosenberg are planning to sue anyone.
PS You may wish to translate 'Execution' differently, as I don't think this is a hanging offence.
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Note added at 14 hrs (2022-02-04 13:51:18 GMT)
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reasserted their claim
vowed to pursue their claim
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Note added at 2 days 12 hrs (2022-02-06 11:29:48 GMT) Post-grading
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So who exactly were they planning to sue, and in what court?
PS You may wish to translate 'Execution' differently, as I don't think this is a hanging offence.
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Note added at 14 hrs (2022-02-04 13:51:18 GMT)
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reasserted their claim
vowed to pursue their claim
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Note added at 2 days 12 hrs (2022-02-06 11:29:48 GMT) Post-grading
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So who exactly were they planning to sue, and in what court?
Note from asker:
| Actually, I appreciated your suggestion, as it makes sense in context. However, I couldn't see that interpretation coming from the words written in the original document. "Klagen" doesn't really mean "claim," and "vorbehalten" doesn't really mean "to vow" or "to reassert"...so I guess I went with a more literal suggestion. I didn't know one simple choice on my part was going to turn into a mess like this. I have no horse in this race. I was just asking for other people's take on this phrase... |
Peer comment(s):
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writeaway
: Makes sense in the historical context/Askers rule, as always. But always nice when someone looking later on sees there are other options than the answer selected by Asker
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Thanks. Asker preferred the modern slant.
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| agree |
Kim Metzger
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| agree |
Cilian O'Tuama
: Some contributions are better ignored.
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| neutral |
Andrew Bramhall
: You're being a bit harsh on yourself there, Cilian. Occasionally you say something worthwhile.
2 days 11 hrs
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