Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
vicarious nationalists
French translation:
nationalistes \"par personne interposée\"
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marmis
Jun 28, 2011 09:24
12 yrs ago
English term
vicarious nationalists
English to French
Social Sciences
Government / Politics
Dans ce contexte:
"It is that they are VICARIOUS nationalists (to use Maurice Brinton's phrase, I think) They are cheerleaders for other people's nationalism".
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Many of the press owners and prominent journalists who became involved in the freedom movement, like the editor of The Hindu, were in the description of a prominent historian of modern India, “vicarious nationalists”, who were quite content to allow others to bear the burdens.
http://sukumar-md.blogspot.com/2010/02/free-speech-and-right...
Merci!!
"It is that they are VICARIOUS nationalists (to use Maurice Brinton's phrase, I think) They are cheerleaders for other people's nationalism".
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Many of the press owners and prominent journalists who became involved in the freedom movement, like the editor of The Hindu, were in the description of a prominent historian of modern India, “vicarious nationalists”, who were quite content to allow others to bear the burdens.
http://sukumar-md.blogspot.com/2010/02/free-speech-and-right...
Merci!!
Proposed translations
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Jun 28, 2011 12:50: Stéphanie Soudais changed "Term asked" from "\"vicarious\" nationalists" to "vicarious nationalists"
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Françoise Vogel
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"la langue révérée" ...
Native in: French 
Works in: English to French, Italian to French, French to Italian, and 1 more.
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English term (edited):
"vicarious" nationalists
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nationalistes "par personne interposée"
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polyglot45
: finalement je crois que c'est plutôt cela comme je l'avais imaginé du départ - mea culpa
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hélas pas réussi à trouver le texte original ...
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GILLES MEUNIER
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English term (edited):
"vicarious" nationalists
nationalistes "indirects"
à distance
par opposition à ceux qui occupent le devant
par opposition à ceux qui occupent le devant
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English term (edited):
"vicarious" nationalists
champions auto-proclamés du nationalisme des autres
Un peu long mais explicite.
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Françoise Vogel
: ce serait d'ailleurs une belle traduction de la seconde phrase (they are cheerleaders...)
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Bonjour, Françoise. Merci.
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pseudo-nationalist
so-called or even false
Example sentence:
9 Nov 2008 – Obama's election is definitely bad news for Turkey's pseudo-nationalist ulusalcılar (Kemalist so-called nationalists).
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English term (edited):
"vicarious" nationalists
nationalistes par procuration
vi·car·i·ous (v-kâr-s, -kr-, v-)
adj.
1. Felt or undergone as if one were taking part in the experience or feelings of another: read about mountain climbing and experienced vicarious thrills.
2. Endured or done by one person substituting for another: vicarious punishment.
3.
a. Acting or serving in place of someone or something else; substituted.
b. Committed or entrusted to another, as powers or authority; delegated.
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Je pense que cela signifie que ces gens ne prenaient pas trop de risques et se reposaient sur les autres pour faire avancer les choses. Après, "par personne interposée" me paraît être à peu près la même chose que "par procuration".
adj.
1. Felt or undergone as if one were taking part in the experience or feelings of another: read about mountain climbing and experienced vicarious thrills.
2. Endured or done by one person substituting for another: vicarious punishment.
3.
a. Acting or serving in place of someone or something else; substituted.
b. Committed or entrusted to another, as powers or authority; delegated.
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Je pense que cela signifie que ces gens ne prenaient pas trop de risques et se reposaient sur les autres pour faire avancer les choses. Après, "par personne interposée" me paraît être à peu près la même chose que "par procuration".
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polyglot45
: je crois que c'est dans l'autre sens - des nationalistes qui ont donné procuration à des tiers
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Anne-Marie Laliberté (X)
: Par procuration. Par l'intermédiaire de quelqu'un d'autre. Lorsque je voyage, c'est avec un compagnon jeune; je vis alors par procuration. J'épouse ses étonnements et ses joies (Gide) ... en nous permettant de jouir de .. par procuration (Maurois)
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Peter LEGUIE
: And maybe even "putatifs", which is not very positive.
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