Glossary entry

Chinese term or phrase:

同期声

English translation:

actual (sound) recording

Added to glossary by Denyce Seow
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Chinese term

同期声

Chinese to English Social Sciences Government / Politics
三月十七号,布什在讲到提名沃尔福威茨为世行下一届行长时,这样评价他。
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三月三十号,在布鲁塞尔的记者招待会上,沃尔福威茨说,
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通过这个同期声,我们可以了解到布什总统对沃尔福威茨的评价还是非常高的。

Discussion

Denyce Seow (asker) May 27, 2006:
Sorry for not responding earlier. I am at the Proz regional conference in Berlin, and so I am not online. I will be back on Monday to read through the answers carefully.....
wherestip May 27, 2006:
I pasted a wikipedia definition of sound bite below for reference
wherestip May 27, 2006:
I don't necessarily have to have the last word, but doesn't common sense suggest weiwei as a fully qualified translator could decide with the full article in front of her? Cheers
Last Hermit May 27, 2006:
这个词似乎有两个意思:1)sound bite;2)live recording。我们须要弄清楚何为原义,何为衍生义。网上信息,鱼目混珠,不能随便拿一个网页作准。
wherestip May 27, 2006:
Look no further. This is from one of Lesley's search results: 善用同期声 同期声是指在现场采访中拍摄图像的同时记录的现场声音,包括现场音响和人物的访谈等
Last Hermit May 26, 2006:
We may need to dig out the etymology of this frustrating '同期声'. So far, I haven't been able to find any reliable info about this.
wherestip May 26, 2006:
The last few lines was just something I found on the web to illustrate what a sound bite is. (Geez, I wish they make it less frustrating for us to post a coherent sentence or thought)
wherestip May 26, 2006:
...From Abraham Lincoln to Winston Churchill, great speakers master the sound-bite. Want a modern day example? Okay . . . how about Johnny Cochran when he said, "If the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit!"
wherestip May 26, 2006:
... From Abraham Lincoln to Winston Churchill, great speakers master the sound-bite. Want a modern day example? Okay . . . how about Johnny Cochran when he said, "If the glove
wherestip May 26, 2006:
Think of famous sound-bites in history. "We have nothing to fear, but fear itself." From Abraham Lincoln to Winston Churchill, great speakers master the sound-bite...
wherestip May 26, 2006:
However, IMO here it just refers to the actual sound recording of one of Bush's speeches being played back, as Lesley's further research has shown.
wherestip May 26, 2006:
Last Hermit, in other situations '同期声' could very well mean a sound bite, provided it is a brief audio clip tailor-made by the politician or media to influence the viewers, the nature of which typically is misleading or has zero substance.
Last Hermit May 25, 2006:
Ok. I could have been misled by someone who told me ages ago that '同期声' means 'sound bite'.
wherestip May 25, 2006:
Chinese explanation that the English is translated wrong. I'll paste the link in my answer box below. The page is in the latter part of the presentation. Please be patient while trying to get to it.
wherestip May 25, 2006:
I found this link that has the definition of 现场同期声. It's a document published by some kind of broadcasting company in China. Although the English was translated into "surrouding sound-bite", it is obvious from the
wherestip May 25, 2006:
I could also say definitely not sound bite. Actual sound is what is meant here. Please be more open to other's opinions.
Last Hermit May 25, 2006:
Definitely 'sound bite': a very short part of a speech or statement, especially one made by a politician, that is broadcast on a radio or television news programme. Examples in my answer box below.
wherestip May 24, 2006:
Last Hermit, I don't see any point in the sarcasm. And I don't think sound bite is an appropriate translation at all, given that you are just guessing also. Please look up the definition of sound bite in your 朗文
Last Hermit May 24, 2006:
拜托,几位,俺不读报,不看电视,你们也不读不看吗?可俺多年前就知道有这个莫名其妙的“同期声”。
Naikei Wong May 23, 2006:
@wherestip: Your suggestions are good... it's probably a metaphor here.
wherestip May 23, 2006:
You could probably say: from this echoing speech/sound, 我们可以了解到布什总统对沃尔福威茨的评价还是非常高的。 or, from this speech that echoes the same sentiment,...
Denyce Seow (asker) May 23, 2006:
I'm tempted to use "sing the same song", but it does not really fit the last part of the sentence.
wherestip May 23, 2006:
NK, I've been away for so long, so I'm not sure. But from context it seems like a situation of 一唱一和,或者说演双簧. 好听一点儿称为统一口径
Naikei Wong May 23, 2006:
@wherestip: I think it may refer to something like "multi-voice channel"... there are many hits of this in Chinese (同期声字幕, etc.)... But I have never heard this word in real life so far. So, I have no idea.

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actual sound

actual sound 同期声

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active, 有功的、主动的、有源的, actual sound, 同期声. AD, 模拟(电路)-数字( 电路), abapter, 接续器、连接头、适配器. ADC, 摸数转换器, ADJ, 调节、调整. ADSR, 这是合成器的包络波控制的四个阶段, ADT, 自动声迹(音)加倍 ...
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agree wherestip
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agree ysun : "From this actual sound (or voice), we ..." sounds natural, but "From this 'sound-bite', we ..." sounds literal and awkward.
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echolalia / parrot-like speech

This was something I picked in in my Psychology course. Good that I still remember this term... :D

FYI:

Diagnostic CriteriaThis person may have another symptom called echolalia. Echolalia is parrot like speech. This person might repeat a word or phrase just spoken by another ...
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MedFriendly.com: Echolaliaprovides an easy to understand definition for the medical term, Echolalia.
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Echolalia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaEcholalia is the repetition or echoing of verbal utterances made by another person. Up to 75% of autistics exhibit echolalia in some form, ...
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Tuning argument

通过这个同期声
Through this tuning argument (of Bush & Wolf-Witz),...



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让俺纳闷的不是英文,而是中文

  同期声,让俺怎么想都想不出来是啥意思。后来知道原来是“sound bite”。可是,同期声能表达些什么呢?愚民电视台有个节目好像叫做《影视同期声》,俺一直以为跟同声翻译之类的扯上关系。看下面英文解释,你就一清二楚了。

sound bite: a short extract from a recorded interview, chosen for its pungency or aptness.


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  其实,不就是“妙语连珠/妙人妙语之类吗?同期声?莫名其妙!

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Quoted Longman examples:



Extra dictionary examples

a 20-second sound bite

Sentences from books, newspapers, etc.

His forte had been the media sound bite.

It is a good sound bite, but it is not any better for hearing it the second time.
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FYI 通过同期声

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:gRzDDUWakEsJ:www.cctv.co...

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"主持人:

  虽然沃尔福威茨作为世行新行长民调的基础不是很好,但是通过一些报道来看,好像布什总统本人和我而对新的职位还是非常充满自信的,接下来我们听一听布什总统在提名的时候,和沃尔福威茨在30号举行记者招待会的时候,他对新的职位的看法?

  解说:

  3月17号美国总统布什在讲到提名国防部副部长沃尔福威茨为世行下一届行长时这样评价他。

  美国总统 布什:

  沃尔福威茨是个经验丰富的管理人才,他曾经协助管理过很多大的机构,像五角大楼和世界银行的相关机构,他也是一个经验丰富的外交官,曾就职于国务院,也担任国美国驻印尼大使,出色地完成了代表美国的国家使命,他是个正直而富有激情的人,他会胜任世界银行的工作。 '

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'主持人:

  通过同期声我们可以了解到,布什总统对沃尔福威茨的评价还是非常高的,既然是布什总统一位得力的干将,而且是一个新保守主义的领军人物,很多决策的一个核心人物,那么为什么在这个时候布什总统做出了让它转换角色这样一个决定,他到底是出于一个什么样的考虑?'

maybe soundbites is correct, or clips, excerpts, quotes...refers back to the various quotes in the interview?

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No, it is a technology:

::依马狮网 - [ Translate this page ]1. 同期声音的记录方式 同期录音已成为影视节目现场录音的标准方式。同期声音记录在 带有导频(pilot tone)的Nagra(纳格拉)6.25小磁带上,或是带有SMPTE时间码的DAT机上( 如HHB),要求高的摄制组可能会用Nagra D(4声道 数字格式记录)。 ...
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many refs to '影视同期声'
见'同期声音记录'

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见'现场同期声':

[PPT] 编目标准介绍File Format: Microsoft Powerpoint - View as HTML
声道内容著录声道内记录的声音分类包括:现场同期声、混合声(几种声音的合成)、解说 声、音乐声、效果声、国际声(除人声之 ... 解释:国际标准音像制品编码(International Standard Recording Code)是针对音像制品出版物制定的且仅适用于正式出版发行 ...
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同期声是指在现场采访中拍摄图像的同时记录的现场声音,包括现场音响和 人物的访谈等:它是党员电教片的一种 - a type of media shoot - something like a staged photo opportunity?

党员电化教育网--取材现场意识的培养 - [ Translate this page ]二、善用同期声 同期声是指在现场采访中拍摄图像的同时记录的现场声音,包括现场音响和 人物的访谈等:它是党员电教片的一种 ... 因此在现场记录同期声时,人物选择要有典型, 录制要清晰,让党员听清听懂。如《最可爱的人》,推出片名前采用主人公在学校 ...
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跟voice-over比:

电视新闻报道如何采用人物同期声-傲视传媒网 - [ Translate this page ]但是,也不是所有的电视新闻报道都应有人物同期声。那么,在什么情况下应采用人物同期 声,采用人物同期声对新闻内容的表达有 ... Copyright © 2000 - 2005 OURSEE MEDIA Inc. All Rights Reserved 地址:北京市西城区南礼士路头条2号市政府行政处大院B座2 ...
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it means you record sight and sound at the same time on the same video/audio tape (or digitally, I am not sure), together.

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ventriloquism

I wonder if this is what the Chinese means

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=ventriloquism

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or perhaps "sing the same tune"

http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/sing the same tune

sing the same tune (British, American & Australian, British)
if a group of people sing the same tune, they say the same things about a subject in public. I want to make sure we're all singing the same tune before we give any interviews to the newspapers. (usually in continuous tenses)

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http://www.abp.gov.cn/down/2005/教师讲稿/4.ppt#189

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事件发生日期和获奖与节目层相同
现场同声期
英文名称: Surrounding Sound-bite
解释:描述本电视音像资料片断是否含有现场录制的同期声音

From the Chinese explanation, I would suggest that the English translation is wrong. I would have translated into "live (surround) sound for the video segment/clip", not "sound bite"

After reading the Chinese explanation, I would recommend "actual sound" or "live sound"

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one more proof of how accurate the above translation was, only one hit in the whole wide world:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q="surrounding sound-bite...

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live audio is also good.

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The common definition of what a soundbite is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soundbite

Soundbite
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
In film and broadcasting, a soundbite is a very short piece of footage taken from a longer speech or an interview in which someone with authority or the average "man on the street" says something which is considered by those who edit the speech or interview to be a most important point. As the context of what is being said is missing, the insertion of soundbites into news broadcasts or documentaries is open to manipulation and thus requires a very high degree of journalistic ethics. Politicians of the new generation are carefully coached by their spin doctors to produce on-demand soundbites which are clear and to the point.

A sound bite is an audiolinguistic and social communications phenomenon whose nature was recognized in the late 20th century, helped by people such as Marshall McLuhan. It is characterized by a short phrase or sentence that deftly captures the essence of what the speaker is trying to say. Such key moments in dialogue (or monologue) stand out better in the audience's memory and thus become the "taste" that best represents the entire "meal" of the larger message or conversation. Sound bites are a natural consequence of people placing ever greater emphasis on summarizing ever-increasing amounts of information in their lives.

News media in particular cherish sound bites. Reporters agree that the best news footage contains at least one sound bite. Politicians in turn have learned (along with their speechwriters) to put greater effort into delivering the perfect sound bite. Originality is not necessary but highly valued. Sound bites are useful to help guide footage editors focus on parts of dialogue that help advance the overall message.

Not everyone enjoys hearing sound bites. They tend to sound best when delivered unplanned, and the logical inverse is often true -- the planned sound bite can easily ring forced and cast doubt as to the speaker's integrity.

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Historical soundbites
Classic examples of sound bites include Ronald Reagan's demand that "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" in reference to the increasing social pressure to remove the Berlin Wall. In this context, the well-delivered sound bite serves as a cultural icon that others are likely to know about.

Another memorable one is "Houston, Tranquility Base here. The Eagle has landed." In one succinct phrase, the entire Apollo Moon program was culminated and everything the US had worked so hard for was suddenly made real.

Sound bites from Shakespeare appear often in popular culture, even if the source of the sound bite is not known: "What's in a name? That which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet." coming from Romeo and Juliet and "The quality of mercy is not strain'd" coming from The Merchant of Venice.

The quality of the best sound bite is that "the message hits home".

Margaret Mead said "Speak in Soundbites" And once there was SoundByte News from the early era of personal computers.

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agree IC -- : sing the same tune. FYI : ventriloquism = 腹语 or 腹语术
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My suggestion

My suggestion is to forget about “这个同期声” and translate it as "From Bush's speech, we can see that ...".
从Lesley提供的link可见,虽然该主持人“通过这个同期声”这番话是紧接着沃尔福威茨的讲话,但实际上该主持人指的是布什在前面讲的话。上述译法也许更明确。我认为翻译不必太拘泥于个别字眼。


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Please watch and listen to the broadcast at http://www.cctv.com/program/jrgz/20050403/100674.shtml
(Click the video camera icon under the title.)

解说:

  3月17号美国总统布什在讲到提名国防部副部长沃尔福威茨为世行下一届行长时这样评价他。

美国总统 布什:
  沃尔福威茨是个经验丰富的管理人才,他曾经协助管理过很多大的机构,像五角大楼和世界银行的相关机构,他也是一个经验丰富的外交官,曾就职于国务院,也担任国美国驻印尼大使,出色地完成了代表美国的国家使命,他是个正直而富有激情的人,他会胜任世界银行的工作。

解说:
  3月30号在比利时首都布鲁塞尔的记者招待会上,沃尔福威茨说:

(沃尔福威茨的声音:) 我也知道自己是个有争议的人,但是我希望随着人们对我的了解,大家会知道我深深地理解我的工作任务。
  对于在世界银行的工作,我深信帮助别人消除贫困是一项很荣耀的任务,没有什么比它更令人高兴了。

主持人:
  通过同期声我们可以了解到,布什总统对沃尔福威茨的评价还是非常高的,既然是布什总统一位得力的干将,而且是一个新保守主义的领军人物,很多决策的一个核心人物,那么为什么在这个时候布什总统做出了让它转换角色这样一个决定,他到底是出于一个什么样的考虑?
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agree wherestip
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