Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Russian term or phrase:
небольшие статьи публикационного и проблемного характера
English translation:
short general interest and topical articles
Added to glossary by
Alan Campbell
Jan 17, 2007 19:47
17 yrs ago
Russian term
небольшие статьи публикационного и проблемного характера
Russian to English
Science
Archaeology
This one is throwing me. This part of the text is discussing the history of archaeological study in Russia in the 1960s and beyond. Short articles of a publishing and general nature?
The full paragraph is below:
Информационные заметки об итогах полевых работ публиковались с 1965 по 1986 г в ежегодниках “Археологические открытия” (АО); небольшие статьи публикационного и проблемного характера - в серии “Краткие сообщения Института археологии” (КСИА).
The full paragraph is below:
Информационные заметки об итогах полевых работ публиковались с 1965 по 1986 г в ежегодниках “Археологические открытия” (АО); небольшие статьи публикационного и проблемного характера - в серии “Краткие сообщения Института археологии” (КСИА).
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Valery Kaminski
Belarus
Belarus
Native in Russian
Belarus
Commitment and experience, here and now
Native in: Russian
Works in: English to Russian, Belarusian to English, Russian to English, and 2 more.
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small general interest ant topical articles
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks. I didn't realise that this question would be quite the response that it did. Seemed to stir up quite a hornets' nest!
I think we can agree that the articles are short, rather than minor (minor being suggestive of their significance rather than length). I think the word "topical" fits perfectly, which is why I have selected this answer. Thanks everyone!"
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general and issue related articles
"небольшой" формат статей можно опустить, так как сам жанр статьи предполагает отлично от монографии малый формат. Автор, возможно, просто пытается обосновать свое обращение к теме ее "недостаточной изученностью".
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It is broken down into three sections - General Books, General Articles and Issue Specific Articles.
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Olga Cartlidge
: Indeed.
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Спасибо, Ольга. Хотя я думаю, что автор неверно употребил слово "публицистические". Ну какие статьи могут быть в архелогических изданиях, вряд ли политического характера.
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Alexander Demyanov
: I beileve this suggestion has the same problems as Valery's: "публикационные" can well be issue related. "Issue related" doesn't make an article "проблемная"//Of course not "публицистические". I never offered such understanding.
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проблемные, мне кажется означает, статьи ставящие своей задачей исследовать определенные проблемы, а "general" - статьи скорее обзорного плана. Вы видели в специальных или отраслевых изданиях статьи "публицистического" плана. Там статей Политковской нет.
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Tatiana Nero (X)
: Бывают статьи, большие и небольшие, и монографии, одно другого и третьего не исключает. Не зная, почему автор оригинала использовал слово "небольшие", не стОит самовольно выбрасывать из оригинала слова, возможно, в них был заложен некий смысл...
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Теперь идем от обратного: берем minor, short, small, brief etc. и смотрим на результат. Некрасивый. Либо статья несерьезная, потому что небольшая, короткая, куцая, неважная, либо автор - лентяй, на большую мол не потянул.
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Roman Bardachev
Canada
Canada
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Canada
University Degree in Translation
Native in: Russian
Works in: English to Russian, Russian to English, English, and 1 more.
minor articles of general interest and issue-specific publications
типа того
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Working Papers, Occasional Papers, ***Minor Articles*** and Reports ([email protected]#generated-subheading4)" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://www.lse.ac.uk/collections/geographyAndEnvironment/who...
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In descending date order, and divided into books, major articles, ***minor articles***, reviews, and editorial
contributions. (http://www.law.cf.ac.uk/research/pubs/repository/lewis02.pdf...
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MINOR ARTICLES
1993 Research Report for Jerusalem Scholarship at the British School of Archaeology in Jerusalem. Levant 25: 213.
1993 A History of St. Paul's Anglican Church, Nicosia. Nicosia. (30-page centennial booklet)
(см. http://www.gla.ac.uk/archaeology/staff/mjmg/mg_publi.html)
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Each issue of Airfield Review also has many ***minor articles*** full of informative data. (http://www.airfield-research-group.co.uk/airfield_review.htm...
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Working Papers, Occasional Papers, ***Minor Articles*** and Reports ([email protected]#generated-subheading4)" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://www.lse.ac.uk/collections/geographyAndEnvironment/who...
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In descending date order, and divided into books, major articles, ***minor articles***, reviews, and editorial
contributions. (http://www.law.cf.ac.uk/research/pubs/repository/lewis02.pdf...
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MINOR ARTICLES
1993 Research Report for Jerusalem Scholarship at the British School of Archaeology in Jerusalem. Levant 25: 213.
1993 A History of St. Paul's Anglican Church, Nicosia. Nicosia. (30-page centennial booklet)
(см. http://www.gla.ac.uk/archaeology/staff/mjmg/mg_publi.html)
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Each issue of Airfield Review also has many ***minor articles*** full of informative data. (http://www.airfield-research-group.co.uk/airfield_review.htm...
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vera12191
: Cогласна, что "minor" не совсем удачное слово, но при чем здесь "helpless"
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Tatiana Nero (X)
: не minor, конечно, но мне кажется, issue-raising - наиболее удачный вариант из предложенных. Можно "short(er) articles meant for publication and raising (certain) issues". Публикационный характер не обязательно предполагает general interest...
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Thank you, Tatiana. I am sure a good translation will be coined eventually as a result of combined efforts.
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Olga Cartlidge
: Whoever has suggested "issue - raising", I agree. "Minor" would mean "not ground breaking, not the cutting edge, unimportant" so it would be better replaced by "short".
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Thank you, Olga. I agree with "short" being a better word to use here.
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Anastasia Novoselova
Native in Russian
Professional Russian translations
Native in: Russian 
Works in: English to Russian, Russian to English, German to Russian
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short articles with research highlights and commentaries
Indeed it seems instead of "публикационного" they tried to say "публицистического". Every article in a journal is meant for publication so "meant for publication" does not seem right to me. By "публицистический" they seem to mean publications that are not regular articles, but those that give overviews, general reports, or devoted to general discussion of a field, without doing any proper experimental work. So my suggestion for this is "research highlights".
As to "проблемного характера": this seems to mean "brief comments on a particular problem/issue".
Agree with Tatiana: *short* articles, to show the difference to regular articles in a journal.
My two cents.
As to "проблемного характера": this seems to mean "brief comments on a particular problem/issue".
Agree with Tatiana: *short* articles, to show the difference to regular articles in a journal.
My two cents.
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Alexander Demyanov
: While "публикационного" is not the best word choice on the author's part, I don't think they meant "публицистического". The latter would have to do with current day issues rather than archaeological study.//Still, no "публицистика"
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I think "current day issues" is what is meant here: reviews, reports, etc. This is more likely than "having to do with publishing"
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Alexander Demyanov
Native in Russian
Software Engineering background
Native in: Russian
Works in: English, Russian, Russian to English, and 1 more.
Short articles they are...
Now, I believe "публикационного характера" are more of informational articles, i.e. their purpose is to publish some newly found facts, while "проблемного характера" discuss some unresolved questions of the field
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To elaborate:
"Проблемная статья" will define a problem/question realted to the field and offer a discussion of it and suggest some possible solutions.
"Публикационная статья" will mostly aim at sharing findings.
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That said, both designations (which do seem quite arbitrary) may way relate to articles focusing on some narrow topics or covering wide range of topics or issues. That's why any wording including "...specific..." would be misleading.
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To elaborate:
"Проблемная статья" will define a problem/question realted to the field and offer a discussion of it and suggest some possible solutions.
"Публикационная статья" will mostly aim at sharing findings.
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That said, both designations (which do seem quite arbitrary) may way relate to articles focusing on some narrow topics or covering wide range of topics or issues. That's why any wording including "...specific..." would be misleading.
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Tatiana Nero (X)
: Да, иногда статьи не предназначаются для публикации.\\ А почему Вы рассматриваете соединительный союз "и" как противопоставление или исключение?
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Not even treating your "иногда", the particular original talks about PUBLISHED articles of both designations.//Where do you see me talking about contraposition or exclusion? 2 (quite arbitrary) designations are LISTED
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Elena Ivaniushina
: согласна с толкованием "публикационных" (более детально описывающих результаты работ) и "проблемных" (дискуссионных, неоднозначных по выводам) статей
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Thanks, Alya.
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small pieces like mere statements or issue raising types
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Scientists in the USSR were supposed to have a certain amount of "publications" in scientific periodicals in order to get a degree and then to confirm their scientific "validity".
A "mere statement" says that a series of experiments resulted in this and that...
Any results that deviate from the predictions may be described in the issue raising part of the same publication, or separately...
Same types of publications could be written analytically, summing up the publications about the experiments carried out by others.
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In application to archaeology, it will be not experiments but digging sites, archaeological finds, and archaeometry...
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Scientists in the USSR were supposed to have a certain amount of "publications" in scientific periodicals in order to get a degree and then to confirm their scientific "validity".
A "mere statement" says that a series of experiments resulted in this and that...
Any results that deviate from the predictions may be described in the issue raising part of the same publication, or separately...
Same types of publications could be written analytically, summing up the publications about the experiments carried out by others.
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In application to archaeology, it will be not experiments but digging sites, archaeological finds, and archaeometry...
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minor human-interest and specialist items
my take on it
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