Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
contre-jetée
English translation:
secondary jetty
Added to glossary by
Robin Salmon (X)
Jan 19, 2007 01:40
17 yrs ago
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French term
contre-jetée
French to English
Tech/Engineering
Transport / Transportation / Shipping
port
Mentioned as distinct from "jetée principale":
"étude des travaux de confortement de la contre-jetée".
I'm thinking it could be a pier adjacent to the main one.
"étude des travaux de confortement de la contre-jetée".
I'm thinking it could be a pier adjacent to the main one.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 | secondary pier or jetty or breakwater or N/E/S/W pier |
Graham macLachlan
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| 4 | counter jetty |
David Hollywood
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| 4 | lee breakwater |
Albert Gomperts
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| 3 | lee breakwater |
Bourth (X)
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Proposed translations
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secondary pier or jetty or breakwater or N/E/S/W pier
pier, jetty, breakwater, mole all serve the same purpose...
GENERALLY (and according to the OED):
- piers are big, protect a water from waves, can be tied up to and landed on.
- jetties are small piers.
- breakwaters protect a water from waves only.
- moles are piers made of stone.
THEREFORE:
- If the structure cannot be landed on it is a breakwater.
- If it can and is small it is a jetty, if it is big it is a pier.
- If the contre-jetée is smaller than the main one you could call the big one the pier and the smaller one the jetty.
UK REF FOR SECONDARY PIER
20 White daymark on. framework tower, white. dwelling. TE 2003. Racon. TR 2003. *. 6593·7. - Harbour Entrance. Secondary Pier. 36 48·3 ...
nms.ukho.gov.uk/amd/wnm%5C2004%5Cweek03_242-339%5C03wknm04.pdf
HOWEVER, we generally talk about the geographic position of piers in order to differentiate between them (for me this the best solution, but perhaps the required information is not available to you):
The first, the cast iron North Pier, was designed by Eugenius Birch and opened in 1863. Five years later the South Jetty opened, but only became popular ...
www2.hilton.co.uk/sisp/index.htm?fx=destination&loc_id=131722&sub_section=Get+your+Bearings
GENERALLY (and according to the OED):
- piers are big, protect a water from waves, can be tied up to and landed on.
- jetties are small piers.
- breakwaters protect a water from waves only.
- moles are piers made of stone.
THEREFORE:
- If the structure cannot be landed on it is a breakwater.
- If it can and is small it is a jetty, if it is big it is a pier.
- If the contre-jetée is smaller than the main one you could call the big one the pier and the smaller one the jetty.
UK REF FOR SECONDARY PIER
20 White daymark on. framework tower, white. dwelling. TE 2003. Racon. TR 2003. *. 6593·7. - Harbour Entrance. Secondary Pier. 36 48·3 ...
nms.ukho.gov.uk/amd/wnm%5C2004%5Cweek03_242-339%5C03wknm04.pdf
HOWEVER, we generally talk about the geographic position of piers in order to differentiate between them (for me this the best solution, but perhaps the required information is not available to you):
The first, the cast iron North Pier, was designed by Eugenius Birch and opened in 1863. Five years later the South Jetty opened, but only became popular ...
www2.hilton.co.uk/sisp/index.htm?fx=destination&loc_id=131722&sub_section=Get+your+Bearings
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks - I put "secondary jetty" (actually my own first instinct). I felt there was a distinction being made."
4 mins
David Hollywood
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worked for int. orgs (IMF, OAS, IDB)
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, German to English
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18
counter jetty
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat
construction de la contre-jetée installée à Monaco en 2002. A partir du dépouillement des essais ... the counter jetty (installed in Monaco in 2002). ...
www.cetmef.equipement.gouv.fr/colloques/geniecotier/fichier... - Similar pages
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Note added at 5 mins (2007-01-19 01:45:38 GMT)
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The counter-jetty serves three purposes: – to protect Condamine harbour and to calm the outer harbour waters (swell-breaking function), ...
www.setec.fr/FO/EN/030-projets/pop_Detail_reference.php?IdR... - 11k - Cached - Similar pages
Hydro International - Archive - July/August 2003, Volume 7, Number ...The main part of the project (putting in place the counter jetty and the floating ... The Counter Jetty. This is made of concrete; length 145m, width 30m, ...
www.hydro-international.com/issues/articles/id19-The_Extens... - 62k - Cached - Similar pages
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Note added at 5 mins (2007-01-19 01:46:05 GMT)
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At that time the water was too deep to allow, using building techniques of the day, construction of a jetty and counter jetty to provide adequate protection ...
www.hydro-international.com/issues/articles/id18-High_Preci... - 59k - Cached - Similar pages
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Note added at 6 mins (2007-01-19 01:46:49 GMT)
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The first involving the reclaimed area and the counter jetty. ... With the addition of the counter jetty, Monaco will become one of the biggest yachting ...
www.gouv.mc/Dataweb/actus.nsf/(ListCh)/0ce7db9f40de19158825... - 11k - Cached - Similar pages
[ More results from www.gouv.mc ]
construction de la contre-jetée installée à Monaco en 2002. A partir du dépouillement des essais ... the counter jetty (installed in Monaco in 2002). ...
www.cetmef.equipement.gouv.fr/colloques/geniecotier/fichier... - Similar pages
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Note added at 5 mins (2007-01-19 01:45:38 GMT)
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The counter-jetty serves three purposes: – to protect Condamine harbour and to calm the outer harbour waters (swell-breaking function), ...
www.setec.fr/FO/EN/030-projets/pop_Detail_reference.php?IdR... - 11k - Cached - Similar pages
Hydro International - Archive - July/August 2003, Volume 7, Number ...The main part of the project (putting in place the counter jetty and the floating ... The Counter Jetty. This is made of concrete; length 145m, width 30m, ...
www.hydro-international.com/issues/articles/id19-The_Extens... - 62k - Cached - Similar pages
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Note added at 5 mins (2007-01-19 01:46:05 GMT)
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At that time the water was too deep to allow, using building techniques of the day, construction of a jetty and counter jetty to provide adequate protection ...
www.hydro-international.com/issues/articles/id18-High_Preci... - 59k - Cached - Similar pages
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Note added at 6 mins (2007-01-19 01:46:49 GMT)
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The first involving the reclaimed area and the counter jetty. ... With the addition of the counter jetty, Monaco will become one of the biggest yachting ...
www.gouv.mc/Dataweb/actus.nsf/(ListCh)/0ce7db9f40de19158825... - 11k - Cached - Similar pages
[ More results from www.gouv.mc ]
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
blavatsky
: looks spot-on
5 hrs
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| neutral |
Tony M
: I have some reservations! 1) The first 2 refs. are translated from FR original texts 2) ALL of these refs. refer to the same dock project, suggesting a common source text and (possibly wrong?) translation 3) Zero relevant Ghits if you exclude Monaco
6 hrs
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| disagree |
Graham macLachlan
: Unfortunately no UK ghits...
9 hrs
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7 hrs
lee breakwater
May be applicable only in specific cases, but this is the term used for the "contre-jetée" at La Condamine Harbour in Monaco (where I sail every weekend, don't you know ;-) ).
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Note added at 13 hrs (2007-01-19 14:56:37 GMT) Post-grading
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Monaco – For the Condamine harbor. improvement project, Bouygues designed and ... The lee breakwater uses Bouygues. Breakwater Optimized Profile. ...
virginiadot.org/projects/resources/ppta-Third%20Hampton%20Roads%20Crossing.pdf
Contre-jetée du Port de la Condamine: fiche de données sur l'ouvrage avec des photos, données techniques, chronologie, liste des concepteurs et entreprises ...
fr.structurae.de/structures/data/index.cfm?ID=s0004927
[picture at http://fr.structurae.de/structures/data/photos.cfm?ID=s00049...]
La contre-jetée a une triple fonction :
– protéger le Port de la Condamine et tranquilliser l’avant-port (fonction brise houle),
– assurer l’accostage des navires de croisière (fonction quai),
– intégrer des services de restauration et de commerce (magasins) sur sa plate-forme supérieure.
http://www.setec.fr/FO/FR/030-projets/pop_Detail_reference.p...
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Note added at 13 hrs (2007-01-19 14:56:37 GMT) Post-grading
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Monaco – For the Condamine harbor. improvement project, Bouygues designed and ... The lee breakwater uses Bouygues. Breakwater Optimized Profile. ...
virginiadot.org/projects/resources/ppta-Third%20Hampton%20Roads%20Crossing.pdf
Contre-jetée du Port de la Condamine: fiche de données sur l'ouvrage avec des photos, données techniques, chronologie, liste des concepteurs et entreprises ...
fr.structurae.de/structures/data/index.cfm?ID=s0004927
[picture at http://fr.structurae.de/structures/data/photos.cfm?ID=s00049...]
La contre-jetée a une triple fonction :
– protéger le Port de la Condamine et tranquilliser l’avant-port (fonction brise houle),
– assurer l’accostage des navires de croisière (fonction quai),
– intégrer des services de restauration et de commerce (magasins) sur sa plate-forme supérieure.
http://www.setec.fr/FO/FR/030-projets/pop_Detail_reference.p...
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
Graham macLachlan
: you can be in the lee of a breakwater, what is the breakwater in the lee of?//If so, it would be superfluous ie the job would have been done by the windward breakwater...
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In the lee of the first breakwater.
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2555 days
Albert Gomperts
Native in English
Works in field
Your language is my business
Native in: English (Variants: British, UK) 
Works in: Dutch to English, French to English, Spanish to English
lee breakwater
A secondary energy-absorbing structure constructed downwind (in the lee of the prevailing wind) of a primary structure. Other names might be appropriate, e.g. North and South breakwater.
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