Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
ordonné sous astreinte
English translation:
ordered upon penalty
Added to glossary by
AllegroTrans
Jul 14, 2007 13:37
16 yrs ago
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French term
Mauritius
Meticulous, hard-working and dedicated
Native in: French (Variant: Standard-France)
Works in: French to English, English to French
ordonné sous astreinte
French to English
Law/Patents
Law (general)
law
L’affaire opposait une société engagée dans une activité
d’exploitation de paris en ligne sur des courses hippiques. Le juge des référés avait *ordonné sous astreinte* l’arrêt de cette activité en ce qu’elle portait atteinte au droit exclusif réservé par la loi au PMU pour organiser des paris sur les courses de chevaux se déroulant dans le pays.
d’exploitation de paris en ligne sur des courses hippiques. Le juge des référés avait *ordonné sous astreinte* l’arrêt de cette activité en ce qu’elle portait atteinte au droit exclusif réservé par la loi au PMU pour organiser des paris sur les courses de chevaux se déroulant dans le pays.
Proposed translations
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| 4 | ordered upon penalty |
AllegroTrans
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| 4 +1 | ordered under penalty by law |
Katarina Peters
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| 4 | upon penalty of X |
Graham macLachlan
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| 4 | ordered under threat of a periodic penalty |
wakky
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Change log
Jul 23, 2007 08:19: AllegroTrans Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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AllegroTrans
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
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Native in: English (Variant: Wessexois) 
Works in: French to English, English, English to French
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ordered upon penalty
i,e, with a penalty if thet disobey the order
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Chemunity - Pragmatic Procurement of Chemicals
Start Chemical Trading Exchange via The Internet ... buying (or delivering) the goods ordered, upon penalty of a fine, which can ...www.chemunity.com/press/press_rel_1.asp - 20k - Cached
blog.myspace.com/janabelle2002
MySpace Blog, Janabelle, The Danish Diaries: A Losing Battle? ... Okay, my good friend Sara challenged (ordered upon penalty of severe scolding! ...blog.myspace.com/janabelle2002 - 68k - Cached
Andrew's Mad Rant by Andrew Ian Murphy
Blogstream blog about ... See, most of you guys involved in the conspiracy have very ... the conspiracy is ordered upon penalty of criminal prosecution, ...andrewsmadrant.blogstream.com/v1/pid/218319.html - 19k
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The Judge ordered, upon penalty, the cessation of this activity...etc.
i.e. the Judge has not specified the penalty (he doesn't have to, he is simply issuing a warning to enforce compliance)
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Chemunity - Pragmatic Procurement of Chemicals
Start Chemical Trading Exchange via The Internet ... buying (or delivering) the goods ordered, upon penalty of a fine, which can ...www.chemunity.com/press/press_rel_1.asp - 20k - Cached
blog.myspace.com/janabelle2002
MySpace Blog, Janabelle, The Danish Diaries: A Losing Battle? ... Okay, my good friend Sara challenged (ordered upon penalty of severe scolding! ...blog.myspace.com/janabelle2002 - 68k - Cached
Andrew's Mad Rant by Andrew Ian Murphy
Blogstream blog about ... See, most of you guys involved in the conspiracy have very ... the conspiracy is ordered upon penalty of criminal prosecution, ...andrewsmadrant.blogstream.com/v1/pid/218319.html - 19k
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The Judge ordered, upon penalty, the cessation of this activity...etc.
i.e. the Judge has not specified the penalty (he doesn't have to, he is simply issuing a warning to enforce compliance)
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks to you all.
I chose "ordered, upon penalty, ...""
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Katarina Peters
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ordered under penalty by law
the usual legal expression
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sorry, that should read "ordered under penalty of law" (not "by")
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www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1312201 - 21k
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www.scc.virginia.gov/division/srf/forms/formc.pdf -
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sorry, that should read "ordered under penalty of law" (not "by")
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www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1312201 - 21k
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www.scc.virginia.gov/division/srf/forms/formc.pdf -
Peer comment(s):
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AllegroTrans
: I will agree, to show you I am not biased in favour of my answer!! We are both of us correct, IMHO...
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Thanks, Allegro, I appreciate your fairness...and I posted my answer to your comment below...and even though Google is not the final authority, you have to admit the huge difference between 26 thousand and 2 million...
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writeaway
: try Googling "ordered under penalty by law". it's not the usual legal expression. "ordered under penalty of law" doesn't fare much better.
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upon penalty of X
The wording in UK English goes something like "the judge ordered him to stop upon penalty of a fine/term of imprisonment, etc." ie the penalty must be expressed!
how do you get round this? do you know what the potential penalty is?
Bridge's Legal Dictionary gives "astreinte" as "penalty" and "coercive fine", so it might be a not too risky guess to use the word "fine".
The coroner can compel the attendance of a witness upon penalty of a fine and possibly imprisonment in extreme cases. Further, subject to a proviso against ...
www.onmedica.net/content.asp?c=949&t=3
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As far as I can see "under/upon/on penalty of law" is like "under risk of prosecution" ie, the penalty is legal proceedings, whereas in this case the person has clearly been brought before the court and has been ordered to do something which if he doesn't he will incur some kind of punishment.
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on penalty of, under penalty of = under the threat of.
OED
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astreinte nf
Jur. periodic penalty payment, daily fine for delay (in performance of contract or in payment of debt);
Hachette/Oxford
how do you get round this? do you know what the potential penalty is?
Bridge's Legal Dictionary gives "astreinte" as "penalty" and "coercive fine", so it might be a not too risky guess to use the word "fine".
The coroner can compel the attendance of a witness upon penalty of a fine and possibly imprisonment in extreme cases. Further, subject to a proviso against ...
www.onmedica.net/content.asp?c=949&t=3
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As far as I can see "under/upon/on penalty of law" is like "under risk of prosecution" ie, the penalty is legal proceedings, whereas in this case the person has clearly been brought before the court and has been ordered to do something which if he doesn't he will incur some kind of punishment.
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on penalty of, under penalty of = under the threat of.
OED
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astreinte nf
Jur. periodic penalty payment, daily fine for delay (in performance of contract or in payment of debt);
Hachette/Oxford
Peer comment(s):
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AllegroTrans
: I agree it's a penalty but your construction will not fit unless you omit "of X"
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is the OED not good enough as a ref? also 0 UK Ghits for ""ordered upon penalty""
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writeaway
: isn't your answer a repeat of AllegroTrans.you've just kept adding on variations as you found them. term of imprisonment is way off the mark./the inclusion of imprisonment as a meaning for astreinte shows guessing/astreinte is financial penalty ie a fine
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indeed I added references as I found them, what's wrong with that? Does it show me up for being some kind of charlatan?//penalty means punishment, as I said in my answer it is most likely a fine, but penalty does not exclusively mean fine
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ordered under threat of a periodic penalty
An astreinte is a fine that is calculated by time period (e.g. X euros per day, per month etc). The amount per day or month is established in the original proceedings, but there are separate proceedings to determine how much is ultimately payable if the defendant fails to comply with the judge's order.
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