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Segments only appear as 99% when saved in the TM
Thread poster: Éric Cléach
Éric Cléach
Éric Cléach  Identity Verified
France
Local time: 01:37
Member (2005)
English to French
Apr 11, 2006

Hi,

I'm using Trados 7.5.0756 on Win XP, MS Office 2003.

Here's my problem: I'm translating a financial report containing thousands of instances of this pattern:
"X.XXX% due mm/dd/20xx"

The problem is that Trados only saves 1 instance for each date, ie if only the "XX.XXX%" part differs, Trados recognizes this segment as 99%, not as 100%, even after being saved in the TM.

For instance, if I have previously saved this segment in the TM: "3... See more
Hi,

I'm using Trados 7.5.0756 on Win XP, MS Office 2003.

Here's my problem: I'm translating a financial report containing thousands of instances of this pattern:
"X.XXX% due mm/dd/20xx"

The problem is that Trados only saves 1 instance for each date, ie if only the "XX.XXX%" part differs, Trados recognizes this segment as 99%, not as 100%, even after being saved in the TM.

For instance, if I have previously saved this segment in the TM: "3.500% due 22/05/2010", and that this one appears later in the document :"4.000% due 22/05/2010" (same date, different %), I only get a 99% match. Now, if I save this "new" segment in the TM, and open it again, it still appears only as 99%. This would be great if the % was different, but that's not the case.

"Multiple translations" option is enabled in the TM.

Any help appreciated.

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Heinrich Pesch
Heinrich Pesch  Identity Verified
Finland
Local time: 02:37
Member (2003)
Finnish to German
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No solution, but Apr 11, 2006

you could try wordfast. In my experience Wordfast handles such cases very intelligently. I have the same problems when I have to use trados, perhaps someone knows a solution within Trados?
Regards
Heinrich
 
Jerónimo Fernández
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English to Spanish
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Maybe a solution Apr 11, 2006

Hi,

Is "Apply placeable penalty also when source tags differ" checked?

(This can be found in Options > Translation Memory Options > tab Penalties). That might be the reason. I'm just guessing, though.

HTH,
Jero
 
Éric Cléach
Éric Cléach  Identity Verified
France
Local time: 01:37
Member (2005)
English to French
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Thanks, but no, the box is not checked Apr 11, 2006

Hi,

Thanks for your answers.
No, the box "Apply placeable penalty also when..." is not checked.

I might be able to find a workaround with Word's search-replace function, but if someone has a better solution, I would really appreciate!
 
Ralf Lemster
Ralf Lemster  Identity Verified
Germany
Local time: 01:37
English to German
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What does the status line say? Apr 11, 2006

Hi Éric,
Does the status line of the Workbench window indicate a fuzzy match, or is there a penalty indication?

Best regards,
Ralf
 
Éric Cléach
Éric Cléach  Identity Verified
France
Local time: 01:37
Member (2005)
English to French
TOPIC STARTER
99% Fuzzy Match Apr 11, 2006

Hi Ralf,

Here is the message shown in the status line: "99% Fuzzy Match".

Just in case, here are the penalty settings:

Formatting... - 1
Attribute and Text... - 2
Placeable differences... - 2
Alignment penalty... - 3
Machine Translation... - 15
Multiple translations... - 0

"Apply placeable penalty" unchecked.


Any help still appreciated... See more
Hi Ralf,

Here is the message shown in the status line: "99% Fuzzy Match".

Just in case, here are the penalty settings:

Formatting... - 1
Attribute and Text... - 2
Placeable differences... - 2
Alignment penalty... - 3
Machine Translation... - 15
Multiple translations... - 0

"Apply placeable penalty" unchecked.


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Ralf Lemster
Ralf Lemster  Identity Verified
Germany
Local time: 01:37
English to German
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Numbers localisation checked? Apr 11, 2006

Hi again,
Another stab in the dark, admittedly: Options - TM Options - Substitution Localisation - is Numbers activated?

Best regards,
Ralf
 
Éric Cléach
Éric Cléach  Identity Verified
France
Local time: 01:37
Member (2005)
English to French
TOPIC STARTER
Yes, it is Apr 11, 2006

Yes, "Numbers" is checked.

I actually found a workaround with Trados "colors" when pretranslating and Search-Replace + regular expressions in Word, but if anyone has another suggestion, it could be nice for next time!

Regards,

Eric
 


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