To celebrate Chinese New Year...

Kevin Yang wrote:
Dear Lu Zou,

Thank you very much for your valuable input straight from New Zealand. As a Chinese immigrant in New Zealand, your observation and living experience are very convincing. Thank you for sharing with us your views!

As you may see when we celebrate the Chinese New Year here, this discussion was repeatedly and forcefully dragged to discuss the “bias in the Western media” by a white New Zealander. Under the cover of free speech in this Forum, she selectively used the negative news stories in New Zealand and tried very hard to use them as examples to support her argument that the Western media is accurate, balanced and unbiased. Any person, if he or she is not blind, would see clearly that she has been using one local news website in the New Zealand as the examples of the mainstream western media, and quoted 6-7 so-called top storied from there about the Chinese or Asian people in New Zealand, and most of them are about the Chinese committed bad crimes in NZ.

This is a gross insult to the Chinese people in New Zealand, because any person, with a little bit brain, would know by fact that the Chinese people at any place in the world are the people and community who are mostly hardworking, family-oriented, thrifty living and dedicated to work and business. But the biased news people and this white NZ drama queen seem not interested in those wonderful traits, quality and real life stories; they deliberately sensationalize a few crime stories and put them as top-line news. This does not reflect at all the Chinese people as a whole, but she thinks she can humiliate us by rubbing such NZ cow pies on our faces so as to relentlessly reinforce her believes in us. Are the Chinese people in NZ as the NZ news and she tried to portrait? Of course, they are not. You can tell better than anyone here.

When she tried so hard to make a point and rubbing the cow pies, she by accident showed us how biased and unbalanced the NZ news stories are. What she helped us to understand is, there is an undertaken agenda among the New Zealand news, as shown in those out of the proportion and unbalanced top-line news stories that were brought to us by this dedicated drama queen, that is, to deliberately demonize the Chinese people and their image, and make only retarded idiots believe that the Chinese people are the bad people and the source of problems.

I do not believe she is debating here, at least her messages did not show it. However, what shows well is her intention and action in helping to implement their undertaken agenda and dancing in their tones. Occasionally, she pretends she is misunderstood. Please do not be fooled by her, you must read all her messages.

Kevin

[Edited at 2006-02-04 23:28]

Lesley McLachlan wrote:
I was fortunate enough to enjoy the friendship and hospitality of wonderful Chinese people. I was lucky to be able to do this while I was a student. It would not have been possible later as a diplomat.

Kevin Yang wrote:
What a joke! The NZ government must have a shortage of the qualified diplomat.

Indeed, I tried but I just could not see any diplomatic quality in her. Someone must have made a mistake.

Lesley McLachlan wrote:
Indeed, I was not suited to diplomatic work and I never became a diplomat, but I did represent NZ in Taiwan once interviewing business immigration applicants.

In 1989 I spent 3 weeks in Taipei interviewing about 100 people about their business backgrounds It was very interesting. Through that I was able to get some feel for the economic history of Taiwan from about 1960 on. Taiwan definitely went through several development phases during that time.

I was also fortunate enought to be a junior member of the NZ officials who hosted Hu Yaobang on his visit to NZ in 1985.

Lesley McLachlan wrote:

The words of a desperate person clutching at straws? Time to fall on your sword Kevin? Are you sure you haven't made a mistake?

Kevin Yang wrote:
Interesting request! Unfortunately I do not have one like you do at this moment. If it would make you feel better, what the heck, I could pick up one right now. That would be to smack any Chinese demonizer right on the head with force and tell him or her loud and clear: Learn to coexist with the Chinese people, and I do not put up with any of your prejudices toward the Chinese people.

Lesley McLachlan wrote:

Good. That's useful. It works both ways of course.

Wenjer Leuschel wrote:



Interesting. Usually, people ask for a favor when they need it. Before the Soviet collapsed, people in East Europe used to asked me for favors. I would turn down some of the requests, but still I did a lot of favors. Why? Because I need friends and smiling around and alone doesn't make any friends. Friends do each other favors. If you don't want to do someone a favor for any reason, just say no, but don't judge because you don't really know why he needs the favor.

Kevin Yang wrote:

You are not just expressing a different view point here. You are to help with demonize the Chinese people, even though you pretended to be an innocent messenger. If you still have the normal state of mind, you should remember my debate with Wenjer many months ago. We have very different viewpoints on certain issues. But we know how to respect each other for being different. After all the discussions were over, we still able to discuss other subjects. I even received an invitation from him to visit Taiwan. Your case is different. You have an agenda.


[Edited at 2006-02-05 05:19]

Jianjun Zhang wrote:

that work hard to meet clients' expectations and deadlines. You are a self-labeled 'diplomat' freelancing in wrangling. I wonder what your intention here is. It is against the forum rule to say what you have been saying, but Kevin has been giving you a chance for self-exposure and incidently, for us to see deeper in your mind.

Lesley McLachlan wrote:

My agenda is rational and open debate in an international forum. I have to say I am not overkeen on sentiment and emotion. I like opinions to be supported with argument.

Lesley McLachlan wrote:

I am not the only one that has been 'self-exposing' though am I.

Yueyin Sun wrote:

The STUFF reports also mentioned that "a 25-year-old Auckland woman" was busted together with the "23-year-old Chinese man", but you only mentioned the "23-year-old Chinese man". As to the "Chinese heart surgeon", the reports didn't even mention he was a Chinese citizen or Chinese national, but you call him "Chinese". Is that because he bears a Chinese name or he looks like a Chinese? Is this what you called "unbiased"? Or, is this some sort of racial discrimination as Jianjun mentioned? Even though all of them are Chinese citizens, you should see the crimes as problems of your own country. Do you still have difficulties to understand "橘生淮南则为橘，生于淮北则为枳"?

Kevin Yang wrote:



I will be the first one to close my eyes. Can't imagine what a torture that would be.

li cullen wrote:

Hi, everyone,

This is the 3rd Chinese Spring Festival I spent in Romania. I have to admit that I am lucky enough to be invited by Chinese consulate in Constanta to spend this particular holiday with them at their residence. So was the last Spring Festival, and the one before that...except for the consulates this year are younger people, nevertheless, they are the greatest people in this world.
We watched the show,ate the dumplings prepared by consulates themselves,met some other Chinese people who have been living in Romania for years.
I used to think of Spring Festival just an usual day, the day that I did't have to get up early in the morning to go to work. After some years of living in a foreign country, I treat this day a very spacial day each year in my life.

Happy Chinese New Year to you and your families!

Li Cullen

Lesley McLachlan wrote:

Happy Chinese New Year!

Jianjun Zhang wrote:



Period.

Kevin Yang wrote:






But you felt it and experienced it from me. You just have not learned the lesson yet.



[Edited at 2006-02-05 05:00]